Onward to mars with Kozyrev’s mirrors: An interview with Dr. Alexander Trofimov
Several years ago, I interviewed the Russian physician Alexander Trofimov, a ground-breaking researcher into the nature of consciousness, regarding his use of a hypo-geomagnetic chamber and Kozyrev’s Mirrors apparatus. These are horizontal or vertical tubes, open at one end, large enough for a person to crawl into. The hypogeomagnetic chamber shields a human subject from cosmic electromagnetic energy. The effect of entering the hypo-geomagnetic apparatus is that the veil that occludes our
consciousness is lifted, and the occupant is capable of accurately seeing any distance across space. Kozyrev’s Mirrors concentrates and shifts energy-time, so one sees is one’s greater self reflected back, but in an entirely different way—hence, the name “mirrors.”
Recently, Dr. Trofimov has launched on a new direction of research—using the expanded consciousness that the Mirrors open for the exploration of space, starting nearby with the Moon, but heading on to Mars.
Carol Hiltner: Why are you now exploring space with the Mirrors? What do you hope to accomplish?
Alexander Trofimov: Use of the Mirror’s technology opens new horizons in the investigation of Space. Upcoming Moon or Mars missions by physical astronauts will need very careful advance preparation of the landing places. With our virtual expedition in Kozyrev’s Mirrors, we have demonstrated that we can get startlingly accurate and detailed views of very distant places. Please, look at the photos of our first virtual Moon expedition using Kozyrev’s Mirrors. Then compare these, side by side, with frames from the American photos from Jose Escamilla’s film Moon Rising, which became available to us six months after our virtual expedition.
CH: How did you do this? Do you choose astronauts who are already known to be psychically gifted, or can anyone see such things inside your apparatus?
AT: We don’t need to use only psychically gifted persons, but not everyone could see such things inside our apparatus. After testing and very long (3-5 months) special preparation in Kozyrev’s Mirrors, our virtual astronauts can be ready to “fly.”
CH: What was the regimen you used to prepare your astronauts to travel to the Moon?
AT: At first, we use a computer program that we call Helios. We make a computer prognosis of the candidate’s individual sensitivity to the factors of lunar gravitation and solar activity. This is a very important component for the realization of our program.
This computer program includes special information about helio/geophysical factors over the past hundred years—about solar activity, magnetic induction, phases of the Moon, etc. When we put in the birthday of the astronaut, we receive information about his or her physiological system; we have more sensitivity. The computer prognosis about individual sensitivity to the Moon and to the Sun is our primary tool for preparation.
The second thing we test for is the individual magnetic sensitivity of the human organism. This is very important because, during our expedition, human consciousness stays outside the magnetic field of our planet. We use a specially developed test for magnetic sensitivity.
CH: So, even though they are not traveling physically there, they are still affected by the lack of gravity and magnetism?
AT: For us, Kozyrev’s Mirrors are like a new type of telescope. Yes, of course they stay physically on our planet. But through the Mirrors telescope, we open a special channel for information about the Moon or the Sun. The influence of different cosmic factors can go through this informational channel, here, inside the mirror. We know about this.
AT: It is a telescope—not a physical expedition. You understand that? But across the informational channel, it is possible to go into open space—open Cosmos—and we must know all the details of influence of different cosmic factors.
CH: So, let me get this clearly. Even though they are here, there is still some impact from where they are journeying because they are inside the Mirrors? Maybe I’m not understanding.
AT: It’s very important to understand. When a person modulates inside Kozyrev’s Mirrors, he modulates a special space—Kozyrev’s space—where there are different laws. Our usual physical laws do not apply; the laws are unknown. Our understanding is that they shift from three-dimensional space plus one-dimensional time to one-dimensional space plus three-dimensional time. This increases the density of their personal energy-time, creating a “time capsule” that enables their consciousness to travel in a quantum manner to different points of Universe! It is another physical reality, but with different, unknown, physical laws.
There are two kinds of space: Minkowski and Stein, which is our kind of physical reality with three spatial dimensions plus time; and another space, the space of Kozyrev, with three time dimensions and one spatial dimension, in which the laws of interaction are now unknown. Therefore, we are very careful to prepare and monitor our astronauts. Inside our Mirrors telescope, we use energy-time impulse to go directly to different points in our universe in this moment, independent from the speed of flight, independent from distance.
CH: Got it!
AT: Okay, to continue with your question: after we do the computer prognosis and the magnetic testing, we test the individual sensitivity of the astronaut inside Kozyrev’s Mirrors for fifteen minutes. We don’t know, now, anything about individual sensitivity. We register, for example, very important parameters using an electroencephalogram. For us, it is very important to observe how to change the different frequencies of our brains—alpha, beta, theta. For example, an increase in the amplitude of alpha rhythm on the encephalogram is a very important marker for individual sensitivity to Kozyrev space. If you look at the BBC film, you can see in detail, how we test during this whole expedition with electroencephalography.
And there is another very important moment in the preparation of our astronauts, using our new technology for their protective security during this virtual trip to different points of the universe: we use holographic water. It is special water for the expedition in our new device. You probably remember the large hypomagnetic chamber I showed you when you visited. But now we have small chamber. We use a small hypomagnetic screen, small Kozyrev’s Mirrors, and a special holographic technology—a Russian patent—a hologram with information about physiological activity. We include, we put special test information in this hologram. It is our special technology, and to prepare the astronauts, they drink this specially treated water, approximately 100 ml before their trip. It is our new method for security during this experiment.
CH: Do they drink the water only just before going into the Mirrors, or do they drink the water in some way to prepare themselves?
AT: We start with the drinking of this water more than a month before, as a special element of preparation. During that month, the astronaut’s organism becomes more autotrophic, because his body has received information about some activity factor. For example, proton energy is different from electron energy. The energy of the Sun is concentrated in this water, and when our astronauts drink it, they receive a unique opportunity for protection against the direct influence of proton energy, etc. It is very important not only for our expedition; in my opinion, it is important for all investigation of space—the different planets: Moon, Mars, etc. We are ready to discuss this possibility for the security of the human organism during physical flights, especially long trips like missions to Mars, where there will be direct influence of Sun protons.
CH: Are those are what would be called cosmic rays?
AT: Yes, yes, yes. It is an element of a cosmic ray. Cosmic rays can be different—with protons of low and high energy. Protons of low energy come from the Sun. Protons of high energy come from different parts of the galaxy. And we have a unique means for the improving the security of real, physical astronauts, not only the virtual astronauts, from this direct influence.
CH: Is the water simply prepared by putting it inside the Kozyrev’s Mirrors, or is it more complicated than that?
AT: It is a different technology. It can be used before going into the Mirrors and while inside the Mirrors, so that more information can be received by the astronauts. There is information in English on our home page, www.ISRICA.ru. It is a special light-holographic device shielded from the geomagnetic field and opened to the energy-time of the Universe for the preparation of autotrophic water. The name of this device is TRODR (The inventors are A. Trofimov and Mr. G. Drujinin from Krasnoyarsk). We prepare this water in a highly concentrated form. If this water is used in solution with a concentration of 1:100,000 for drinking water, this water becomes autotrophic water, not only as a protection against the Sun’s rays, but also as gerontological protection. This is a message for our colleagues in the United States.
CH: So, once your astronauts are prepared, how do you enable the astronauts to navigate to the Moon rather than to somewhere else?
AT: This is a very important question. For a concrete address to the Moon, we use a special informational conductor—or stalker. For instance, photo maps and photo pictures, such as a detailed photo of a specific crater on the Moon can be used as a stalker. We take quantum-physical information from this photo, included across our special (patented in Russia) apparatus, to a channel inside the Mirrors, and in this channel inside the Mirrors appears this informational Moon conductor. Do you understand, Carol?
CH: I think so: you basically provide them with specific photographs.
AT: Yes, of a concrete part of the Moon, for example. But it can be much more than that. This patented method and device (Patent RF № 2163491) can extract and transmit different quantum states, not only from photos, but also from real living and unliving matter. Unfortunately, we do not have samples of Moon dirt. If we could receive real Moon samples—even less than a gram—from the Apollo expedition and include these Moon artifacts in this channel, the effectiveness of our Moon expedition could be increased very many times. Maybe it’s possible when we collaborate with a university in the United States. I don’t know.
CH: What are the next steps in your research?
AT: To continue this investigation, it is very important to increase the modern equipment inside the Mirrors. We’ve been discussing this question with different American companies. It is very important for us to have, for example, modern electroencephalography, because when our astronauts sit for two hours under the electrodes of electroencephalography, it’s physically very hard on their heads. So we need the modern variant of electroencephalography and other psycho-physiological apparati, because it is a long expedition, and at this time, we unfortunately have very old equipment inside the Mirrors. I want to say that when our astronauts have sat twice under the electroencephalography hat on two occasions, their heads got too hot. This is very subtle work, and the physical condition of our astronauts is very important.
Our plan is to create an alternative project for the study of Mars, using the possibility of Kozyrev’s Mirrors. For us, the Moon is only training. Maybe you know about the plan of NASA to go, step by step, to Mars during the next fifteen years. In our plan, we can realize this project in five years using the new technology of a Kozyrev’s Mirrors telescope. The information that we can receive through this technology can help in the preparation for the real expedition to Mars.
Over the next two years, it is important for us to prepare the new technology for a long expedition to Mars. For one month, our astronauts must live inside the Kozyrev’s Mirrors station. We must create a special Mirrors station for the preparation and realization of this expedition. We must attempt to transmit the bio-thermodynamics of the human organism on a new level—on the autotrophic level. Then, across different variants of food, the human organism can be more autotrophic. The human organism must receive proton and electron information, but must be safer under the direct influence of these factors. It is a special aim for a long expedition inside Kozyrev’s Mirrors. The Moon expedition is very short—only two hours. Mars is another situation, and another condition for security of our astronauts. It’s very important to register the dynamic of stable isotopes (13-C, 12-C, and others) in the tissues of our astronauts on the different stages of the virtual Mars expedition, which will be useful as well in the physical expedition. The stable isotopes are important markers of the level of openness of living systems to cosmic influences.
CH: Why does it take a month to do the trip if they are traveling in their consciousness?
AT: It needs to be an extended period because there exists an opinion that Mars was a planet with civilizations, and that this civilization was destroyed during a change in cosmo-physical conditions. It is an opinion only. For us, it is very important to understand, to find the elements of this civilization on the surface of Mars. This is aim number one. It is possible across the Mirrors telescope. And after this, aim number two: we must attempt to understand what happened—how it changed. With what cosmo-physical condition was this civilization destroyed. It is very important for our human civilization here. And in connection with this aim, it is very important to create a station on Mars, on the Moon, or on an asteroid, for example, to directly monitor the cosmo-physical situation, for the security of our planet—not only with an astronomic telescope. You know, we receive information about asteroids only after three days. If we can organize this virtual monitoring across different planets and different asteroids, and maybe even comets, we receive a unique possibility for the security of our planet. Up until now, this has been just science fiction. It is only now, from a position of Kozyrev space, that this is a new scientific reality and a new scientific aim. We will attempt to find a solution within the next year.
AT: It is no fantasy, Carol. You know us. In the beginning, people say, “Oh it is fantasy.” And in the second step, people say, “Oh it is scientific fantasy.” And in the third step, “Oh, it is a new scientific reality!” This is the evolution of science.
Interview copyright 2012 by Carol Hiltner. All rights reserved.
Academician of International Academy of Energy-Informational Sciences, Professor of International Slav’s Academy and Doctor of Medical Sciences Alexander Trofimov is the director of the International Scientific-Research Institute of Cosmic Anthropoecology (ISRICA) in Novosibirsk, Russia (www.ISRICA.ru). During more than thirty years of investigation, he has authored more than 300 scientific works (7 monographs) on heliobiology, cosmic anthropo-ecology and transpersonal psychology.
Dr. Trofimov’s book with V.P. Kaznacheev, Reflection on Life and Intelligence on Planet Earth: Problems of Cosmo-Planetary Anthropoecology, is now available in English. Published by the Academy for Future Science in Europe, 2008: Germany, Wasserburg, academy@affseurope,org Dr. Trofimov will be in New York, August 2-4, 2012, and will be available for meetings with potential scientific collaborators as well as possible project funders (contact e-mail : email@example.com).
Please read before contacting Dr. Trofimov: Since publication of the first interview in Spirit of Ma’at, numerous people have contacted Dr. Trofimov, wanting to experience Kozyrev’s Mirrors and/or asking for plans to construct the Mirrors themselves. Because the effect of the Mirrors on an individual is unpredictable and the resulting psychological and physiological shifts may require an extended, supervised adjustment period, Dr. Trofimov uses the Mirrors only in the course of his research, which involves a long-term scientific commitment. While he actively invites scientific collaboration, he neither offers nor recommends “joy-rides”—please don’t ask.