The Spirit of Ma’at
Volume
1 November 2000
An Interview with Dr. Masaru Emoto
REIKO: We have read your book The Message from Water, and we
introduced it on our website in our August issue “Conscious Water Crystals: The
Power of Prayer Made Visible.” It has been our most popular article, with its
readership increasing every week, and has raised many questions.
You mentioned in your book how you
would type out words on a piece of paper and paste these written words onto a
bottle, and see how the water reacted to the words -- what kind of crystals
were formed from the words. From your research, are you able to discern whether
the reaction of the water came from the vibration of the actual words that were
pasted onto the bottles, or whether the intention of the person who was pasting
the words onto the bottle influenced the experiment in any way?
DR. EMOTO: This is one of the more difficult
areas to clarify. However, from continuing these experiments we have come to
the conclusion that the water is reacting to the actual words. For example, for
our trip to Europe we tried using the words “thank you” and “you fool” in
German. The people on our team who took the actual photographs of the water
crystals did not understand the German for “you fool,” and yet we were able to
obtain exactly the same kind of results in the different crystal formations
based on the words used.
REIKO: Have you found that distance made
any difference when people were praying over water? For example, if people in
Japan were to pray over water in Russia, would this be different from people
praying over water that is right in front of them?
DR. EMOTO: We have only experimented once with
that in the book. But from that experiment, distance did not seem to matter.
The intention and prayers of the person still influenced the water. We have not
yet tried further experiments from a long distance. However, my feeling is that
distance would not make much of a difference. What would make a difference is
the purity of intent of the person doing the praying. The higher the purity of
intent, the less of a difference the distance itself would make.
REIKO: Have you seen any difference
between one person praying over water versus a whole group of people praying
over water?
DR. EMOTO: Since the water reflects the
composite energy of what is being sent to it, the crystalline structure
reflects the composite vibrations of the group. So one person praying reflects
the energy or intention of that one person. In terms of how powerful the effect
can be, if you have one person praying with a deep sense of clarity and purity,
the crystalline structure will be clear and pure. And even though you may have
a large group of people, if their intention as a group is not cohesive, you end
up with an incohesive structure in the water. However, if everyone is united
together, you will find a clear, beautiful crystal, like one created by the
prayer of a single person of deep purity.
In one of our experiments, we had
some water on a table, and 17 participants all stood in a circle around a table
holding hands. Then each of the participants spoke a beautiful word of their
choice to the water. Words like unity, love, and friendship. We took
before-and-after shots and were able to obtain some beautiful crystalline
structures as a result of this. I have some slides that I will be showing of
these crystals in my upcoming European tour.
REIKO: Is the water influenced
immediately, or is there a time lag?
DR. EMOTO: In these cases we would freeze the
water right away, so we could say that the water is changed instantaneously.
REIKO: Have you ever tested other human
body fluids, such as saliva, blood, urine etc?
DR. EMOTO: Yes, we certainly have. However,
fluids with other elements in them, like seawater, blood and urine, do not form
crystals. However, we can dilute them with distilled water to something like 10
to the power of -12 or -20 or so. This dilutes the component of other elements
in the fluid to the point where we can freeze the sample and obtain crystals.
REIKO: Could you then see the effect that
energetic healing or prayer has on a person by looking at the crystals formed
by their blood or urine?
DR. EMOTO: As far as experiments related to
the human body are concerned, there are a lot of subtle influences that also
need to be taken into consideration. So although we are looking at this, we
have not publicized any information yet. However, you can look forward to
hearing about our findings on this in the future
REIKO: If we could imbue water with the
energy of various words, for example, with the word, “health,” could we then
use the water that has that vibration in it and use it to do things like grow
food, water plants, etc?
DR. EMOTO: We have not tried this, but some
people who have read the book are experimenting with bottling tap water and
taping words like “love” and “appreciation” on the bottle and using that water
to water their plants, or to put cut flowers in. They are finding that their
cut flowers are lasting much longer, and that the plants in the garden are much
more radiant.
REIKO: Once a certain vibration is
introduced to the water, how long does the water “remember” that crystalline
structure?
DR. EMOTO: This will be different depending on
the original structure of the water itself. Tap water will lose its memory
quickly. We refer to the crystalline structure of water as “clusters.” The
smaller the clusters, the longer the water will retain its memory. If there is
too much space between the clusters, other information could easily infiltrate
this space, making it hard for the clusters to hold the integrity of the
information. Other microorganisms could also enter this space. A tight bonding
structure is best for maintaining the integrity of information.
REIKO: What kind of words would create
smaller clusters and what kind of words would create larger clusters?
DR. EMOTO: Slang words like “you fool” destroy
clusters. You would not see any crystals in these cases.
Negative phrases and words create
large clusters or will not form clusters, and positive, beautiful words and
phrases create small, tight clusters.
REIKO: You say that some negatives do not
form clusters, but we see from your photos that they do still form
characteristic patterns. How would you classify these patterns?
DR. EMOTO: Think of it in terms of vibration.
It's easy to understand that language -- the spoken word -- has a vibration.
Well, written words also have a vibration. Anything in existence has a
vibration. If I were to draw a circle, the vibration of a circle would be
created. Drawing a cross would create the vibration of a cross. So if I write
the letters L O V E, then these letters put out the vibration of love. Water
can be imprinted with these vibrations. Beautiful words have beautiful, clear
vibrations. But negative words put out ugly, incoherent vibrations which do not
form clusters. Language is not something artificial, but rather is something
that exists naturally. I believe that language is created by nature.
REIKO: Does that mean that every word has
its own signature vibration or cluster that is unique to itself?
DR. EMOTO: Yes. During our evolution, we
learned what sounds were dangerous, what sounds were soothing and safe, and
what sounds were pleasurable, and so on. We slowly learned about various
vibrations of the laws of nature. We learned this through instinct and through
experience. We accumulated this information over time. We started out with some
simple sounds like “a” or “u” or “e,” which evolved into more complex sounds
like “love.” And these positive words create “natural” crystalline structures
-- which are all based on the hexagon.
In fact, the structure of all
evolution in nature, from an informational perspective, is based on the
hexagon. The reason hexagons are formed has to do with the chemical reaction of
the benzene ring. I believe that anything that lacks this basic hexagonal
structure is out of accord with the laws of nature and holds a destructive
vibration. So when we look at things that do not exist naturally -- things that
have been created artificially -- many of them lack this hexagonal structure
and so they have, I believe, a destructive vibration.
This principle is what I think
makes swearing and slang words destructive. These words are not in accordance
with the laws of nature. So, for example, I think you would probably find
higher rates of violent crime in areas where a lot of negative language is
being used. Just as the Bible says, first there was the Word, and God created
all of Creation from the Word.
So words actually convert the
vibrations of nature into sound. And each language is different. Japanese has
its own set of vibrations that differs from American. Nature in America is
different from nature in Japan. An American cedar is different from a Japanese
cedar, so the vibrations coming from these words are different. In this way,
nothing else holds the same vibrations as the word arigato. In Japanese,
arigato means “thank you.” But even when there is this mutual underlying
meaning, arigato and thank you create different crystalline
structures. Every word in every language is unique and exists only in that
language.
REIKO: Have you come across a particular
word or phrase in your research that you have found to be most helpful in
cleaning up the natural waters of the world?
DR. EMOTO: Yes. There is a special combination
that seems to be perfect for this, which is love plus the combination of
thanks and appreciation reflected in the English word gratitude. Just
one of these is not enough. Love needs to be based in gratitude, and gratitude
needs to be based in love. These two words together create the most important
vibration. And it is even more important that we understand the value of these
words. For example, we know that water is described as H<font
size=-2>2</font>O. If we were to look at love and gratitude as a pair,
gratitude is the <em>H</em> and love is the <em>O</em>.
Water is the basis that not only supports but also allows the existence of
life. In my understanding of the concept of yin and yang, in the same way that
there is one <em>O</em> and two <em>H</em>s, we also
need one part yang/love to two parts yin/gratitude, in order to come to a place
of balance in the equation.
Love is an active word and
gratitude is passive. When you think of gratitude -- a combination of
appreciation and thankfulness -- there is an apologetic quality. The Japanese
word for gratitude is kan-sha, consisting of two Chinese characters: kan,
which means feeling, and sha, apology. It's coming from a reverential
space, taking a step or two back. I believe that love coming from this space is
optimal love, and may even lead to an end to the wars and conflicts in the
world. Kan-sha is inherent in the substance H2O -- an
essential element for life.
REIKO: So if we were to develop a car that
could run on water instead of gasoline, and return the water to the atmosphere
and subsequently back into space in this way, would that be one way of
fulfilling our task?
DR. EMOTO: I think that would be a wonderful
thing, and for the sake of preserving Mother Nature it is the direction that we
need to go. However, since water is the mirror reflecting our level of
consciousness, a large percentage of the people on the planet, at least 10
percent of the people, need to have the love and the kan-sha awareness.
When they do, then the time will come when water can be used to replace
gasoline. And the reason I say 10 percent is that this ratio is mirrored in
nature. When we look at the world of bacteria, for example, there are 10 percent
good bacteria, 10 percent bad, and a majority of 80 percent opportunistic
bacteria that could go either way. In looking at the various environmental
issues we are faced with, and the tasks that we need to fulfill for the planet,
if we could get more than 10 percent of the people consciously aware, than I
believe we could pull the 80 percent in that direction, too.
And so I believe that the people
who are following a spiritual path are promoting peace for the planet and for
other people. If we could only unite on this level of consciousness, then we
will be there.
I feel that my book The Message
From Water has given birth to a convincing message through a common
language for the whole world. Not because I wrote it, but because I know it was
birthed through kan-sha toward mankind. I think this is why so many
people from other countries want to interview me about the book. I am being
invited to give talks at six different European locations. Things have been
coming in non-stop from abroad.
REIKO: Do you believe that water itself is
conscious and is reacting to the words?
DR. EMOTO: I understand that many of your
readers are people interested in spiritual matters, and I would like to answer
this question from that perspective. I believe that prior to Adam and Eve water
itself held the consciousness of God -- that God's intention was put into the
medium of water, and that this was used in the creation of Earth and Nature. In
other words, all of the information needed for God's Creation was reflected in
the water.
And then we -- Adam and Eve -- were
placed on Earth to be the caretakers for this Creation of God. I believe that
water held the consciousness of God until then, but that after the caretakers
were placed on Earth, water became an empty vessel to mirror and reflect what
was in the heart. It became a container to carry energy and information.
Therefore, since this time, I think water has taken on the quality of simply
reflecting the energies and thoughts that it is exposed to; that it no longer
has its own consciousness. Water reflects the consciousness of the human race.
REIKO: Would you tell us your
philosophical thoughts about what you believe these water crystals really are?
DR. EMOTO: After the book was published, I was
wondering about this, and I came to the realization that these crystals are
spirits. There are many parallels. When ice melts, the crystalline structure
becomes an illusion. It's there -- and yet it's not there, because you can no
longer see it.
Similarly, when a person dies their
body loses several grams of weight -- what some people think of this as the
weight of the soul. But then we can often visually see them. I think that the
soul has mass, and that it returns to water molecules. And because it has mass,
it is affected by the gravitational pull of the earth. And so sometimes the
soul cannot transition over to the other side.
In Buddhism, we talk about
attaining sattori, or reaching enlightenment. People who attain sattori do not
become ghosts. They are able to achieve a certain stage of development at the
soul level and return to God for a while before they move on to their next
assignment
We traveled here to Earth on the
water crystals of spheres of ice [Editor's Note: You will hear more about this
amazing phenomenon in an upcoming issue of the Spirit of Ma'at on the
subject of water.] Earth is not our native home. There was nothing here. So
these souls can return to their native homes for awhile. That is sattori, or
enlightenment. However, most people on the planet are not able to attain
enlightenment. To reach enlightenment means to be able to completely let go of
the ego and our worldly attachments.
In the past 100 years the world's
population has increased from 1 billion to 6 billion. During these 100 years,
war and capitalism has dominated the planet. Rather than being able to detach
from our desires, the opposite has been true. Our desires have grown and grown.
Very few people have been able to attain enlightenment in this environment. Few
souls have been able to go “home” and I believe they have remained on Earth in
the form of water. This connects into the concept of reincarnation, where these
spirits keep falling back to Earth and need to redo their lives here.
REIKO: So when a person dies, if they are
unable to attain sattori at that time, their soul remains on this planet as
water?
DR. EMOTO: That is what I believe, yes. The
Japanese character for spirit is a combination of the words “rain” and “soul.”
People who have seen ghosts report seeing them in water or in places where
there is a lot of humidity. It's as if the imprint of the soul, which is in the
form of water, suddenly takes form when surrounded by water or moisture -- much
like a mirage.
And so, looking at the pictures of
the water crystals and the impact they are having, I came to the realization
that these themselves are ghosts. Up until now, I had thought of ghosts as
something to be frightened of, something that we could do nothing about. But
watching these crystals, I realized that by simply projecting beautiful music
and words onto them, the crystals or ghosts become beautiful. If that's the
case, there's nothing to be frightened of. We need to let everybody know about
this, and all use beautiful words and offer beautiful music, and create beauty
in the environment.
By receiving beautiful thoughts and
feelings and words and music, our ancestral spirits get lighter and are now
able to make the transition “home.” When we consider this, we can see the
importance of traditions like Obon [a Japanese summer tradition where
ancestral spirits are invited back to spend time with the family, and the
ancestors are taken care of and respected].
When we are alive, the human body
is at approximately 36 degrees Celsius. This is the temperature of the fluids
in the body. When we die, this goes to zero degrees Celsius. When we die and go
to the other side, crossing the river, we are no longer able to move our
bodies. But the crystalline structure of our soul emerges. It's like water.
When water turns to ice, the crystalline structure becomes visible, but it also
becomes immobile. So “crystal” equals “spirit.”
REIKO: Thank you very much.