Vol 2, No 6       
Michael Jackson album cover by Geller


a
Conversation
with
Uri Geller

by Wynn Free
 
 
Children themselves are magical. Don't you understand? They are innocent. They are not skeptical. They are not cynical, which makes them almost pure. They're just little geniuses. No matter where they are, no matter what kind of family they come from, whether very poor or very wealthy, children are a source of energy. When I am onstage to demonstrate my powers, I surround myself with children.
—Uri Geller
Uri GellerIn the 70's and 80's Uri Geller was a household word across America. He was a frequent guest on a multitude of TV shows, demonstrating his amazing spoon bending abilities. He created quite a controversy as probably the first person to publicly display supernatural powers to the viewing public.

A group of naysayers were convinced that his displays were just magic tricks, but Uri Geller's powers have been validated numerous times through controlled tests at Stanford University and other scientific institutions, proving to all the world that he actually is performing miracles. He has even demonstrated the ability to bend spoons — and fix watches! — in the homes of the people who are viewing him on television.

Skeptical magicians have attempted to show that the tests were inconclusive, demonstrating that they also can perform the same feats using trickery, not magic. However, these magicians have never submitted themselves to the scientific tests that Uri Geller did. And they certainly have never shown — as the Stanford tests prove through molecular microscopy — that the objects whose forms they alter have been manipulated by an "unknown force."

As the harbinger of this "Age of the Magicians," we talked to Uri by telephone at his home in England. The interview was conducted on December 20 — Uri's birthday.


Wynn: Uri, please tell us a little bit about your childhood and how you learned you had special abilities.

Uri: I would say that I had a very tough childhood. My mother and father were very poor. My mother worked as a seamstress.

When I discovered the powers, I was about four years old. I was eating soup, and the spoon bent in my hand. It broke in half. My mother, who is related to Sigmund Freud, thought that maybe I had inherited some powers or energies from him, but I doubt this.

When I demonstrated these abilities in school, I was bullied, because some of these kids thought I was a freak. I would move the clock on the wall. I could read minds, too, but it was the spoon bending and the key bending that amazed everyone.

But some of the kids didn't accept it, so it was quite a tough childhood.

Wynn: When did you decide to go public with your abilities?

Uri: Throughout my life, even when I was a child, I demonstrated my powers to many people — family, teachers. I did this privately.

Then I lived in a kibbutz for a year in Israel, and one day when I was working as a male model I bent a key for the photographer. He was astonished and invited me to a party he was giving for his friends. That's when I realized that I could really amaze people with my abilities. There were more parties, and they became more prestigious, including now lawyers, judges, generals. . . Then one day Golda Meier was there, and I did a little mind reading with her. And the next day, when she was interviewed on the radio and was asked to predict Israel's future, she said, "Don't ask me. Ask Uri Geller."

That happened in 1969. It was my first exposure to the public. Overnight, I became extremely in demand on stage and in big theaters.

Wynn: Do you have any idea how you do these things?

Uri: I have feelings. A British scientist, a Nobel prize laureate named Brian Josephson, believes that what I do is quantum mechanics.

I want to believe that it's more spiritual or even more supernatural in nature. I'm a religious man. I believe in God. I do want to believe that my powers are a gift. But there are so many mysteries out there in the Universe that it's very difficult for me to understand these powers. And it's a fact that not a lot of people have them. I keep traveling around the world. I write my books, and I get thousands of emails a week. I just finished my sixteenth book, and people know how to reach me. But I've yet to find others who can do this.

Children seem to be the exception. When I have taught them how to focus their minds on a spoon, many children do surprise me. But then, as they grow older, it ebbs away from them.

Wynn: Have you read about the superpsychic children who have been popping up in China and Mexico?

Uri: Yes, I've heard about them. They can "see" colors while blindfolded.

Wynn: Right, and some of them can do telekinesis.

Uri: I believe that they are real.

Wynn: The Spirit of Ma'at published an article last year by Drunvalo about psychic children, and he speaks of you as the spiritual grandfather of these children. He talks about the scientific tests that were done on your powers at Stanford University. Could you tell us a little bit about those tests?

Uri: I was tested there with two other people: Inga Swan, and someone else. My tests at Stanford were published as a scientific paper in Nature Magazine. You can find this on my website, uri-geller.com. Nature Magazine is one of the most prestigious scientific magazines in the world.

And after that I went off and did my TV shows and created a lot of controversy, where magicians tried to attack me and say that it was not real. There will always be skeptics out there. I warned them not to libel me or defame me — but then I just moved on.

These tests, by the way, were really financed by the CIA. Very few people know that. We set up a program for the Americans called Stargate, which was about remote viewing. And just recently, the CIA again activated the people who do remote viewing, to find out more about Afghanistan and where the next terrorist attacks would occur.

Today, I teach healing. I don't consider myself a healer or a miracle worker, but over the years I've discovered that just believing and igniting, or awakening, the power of positive thinking and the power of prayer can really help people. That's what I do today. My books are about those subjects.

Wynn: On your website you have many uplifting things — and you also once sold shirts that you wear. What's that all about?

Uri: The site that sold the shirts was not mine, it was just linked to my website. And the proceeds all went to charity. A fan of mine owned this website and he asked me if he could sell some of my old shirts there. I said yes, but only under the condition that all the money would go to children's hospitals.

I am the honorary vice president of two children's hospitals here in England. That gives me great satisfaction. Most of the books I have on my website are downloadable free, but the profits from my new books, the ones that are in the bookstores now, go to these hospitals.

I'm not in the business of collecting money any more. I have enough. So I'd rather teach people today about mind power and how to bring about peace.

A Car that Speaks for Peace

Uri has created an art car called the "Geller Effect," a custom-built 1976 Cadillac decorated with some 5,000 pieces of contorted cutlery. The word "peace" is incorporated into the design in several languages, including Arabic and Hebrew.

Often imbedded with semi-precious stones and crystals, many pieces were once owned, used, or touched by famous personalities. The hood ornament is a rare rock crystal globe once owned by surrealist painter Salvador Dali.

Geller will drive the Geller Effect to Jordan, Egypt, Lebanon, Syria, Iraq, and Iran in support of peace in the Middle East.
I also paint and design. I designed Michael Jackson's new CD. I design pottery, which you can find in Bloomingdale's, believe it or not. I enjoy doing things that I was robbed away from doing as a child, because it was always the spoon bending that people were interested in. I was painting when I was seven years old. I also studied under Salvador Dali. So now I continue painting. I have a big exhibition in Tokyo, and Steven Spielberg is taking it on a charity tour at the end of December [2001].

I try to do fun things. And I also do some serious things that I don't really talk about. I spend most of my time with my family, here at home in the little village that I live in, and once in a while I do very big TV shows, which I have to do to promote my books.

I'm doing a major documentary for A&E in the United States. My sixteenth book is called Life Signs and that's for Reader's Digest. Reader's Digest will put me on a tour in the United States in March.

Wynn: And you also had a book out called The Rabbi and the Psychic.

Uri: Yes, The Rabbi and the Psychic and Unorthodox Encounters are my two latest books. Life Signs is coming out at the end of February in the United States.

Wynn: You had an experience with ET's, didn't you?

Uri: I cannot be sure that they were ET's. But I can tell you that I had an unreal, almost surreal encounter with certain objects that cannot be explained. Some very bizarre lights. I talk about this more on my website.

Wynn: Children are attracted to movies with people with magic powers like Star Wars and Harry Potter. Do you have any understanding why that's so?

Uri: Children themselves are magical. Don't you understand? They are innocent. They are not skeptical. They are not cynical, which makes them almost pure. They're just little geniuses. No matter where they are, no matter what kind of family they come from, whether very poor or very wealthy, children are a source of energy. When I am onstage to demonstrate my powers, I surround myself with children.

Wynn: There have been times when you've been on TV and people in their homes had spoons bend.

Uri: That always happens, because I become an enabler. I become a catalyst, almost a trigger to the power of the minds of other people.

Wynn: There must be people that have that innate ability out there.

Uri: Or people who believe, because these innate abilities are awakened, and mainly with children. A year ago, I did a big documentary for Fox television and I had kids all around me, because they energize me.

Wynn: So you do better when there are kids around you.

Uri: Oh, absolutely.

Wynn: And what about when people are skeptical?

Uri: When people are skeptical, I don't even talk to them. It's a waste of time. If you're an open-minded skeptic, then I will take my time to describe and try to influence you, but never forcefully. The Harry Potter and the Lord of the Rings books are about people who have powers, and children are attracted to that.

One of my own books, a novel called Ella, is about a child who is bullied at school and abused at home who suddenly develops supernatural powers. Universal is right now in the process of turning that into a movie.

Wynn: Do any of your own children have these kinds of abilities?

Uri: Not really. But they're very intuitive. They're very psychic, but they can't bend spoons.

Wynn: Do you think we're going to undergo a shift, which a lot of people predict?

Uri: We are already beginning to undergo a shift right now.

Wynn: Any idea how that's going to manifest?

Uri: It is hard to know, but it is definitely a spiritual shift. With all these terrorist attacks and bombings of Afghanistan, something is going on. There's definitely an awakening call happening, and through that awakening call there is a thread that tells us to be alert and to be careful.

Wynn: I'll bet you have lots of synchronicities in your life. Could you share one of your greatest synchronicities?

Uri: Just yesterday when I was doing a TV show in London, there was a person who delivered some food for the guests who were waiting, and that person had absolutely no idea that I would be there. But we had a conversation, and he was very interested in my powers. He asked me the same question you did — whether my children had these powers — and I told him that my mother thought I inherited them from Sigmund Freud.

And the person almost collapsed, because they had in their pocket a letter written by Sigmund Freud. They were taking it to Sotheby's to be auctioned.

Wynn: So, in conclusion, what kind of inspirational message could our readers get from Uri Geller?

Uri: I would tell them three things. Start being positive about yourself. Start being optimistic about the very near future. And, most most important, believe in yourself.




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